In Australia, consumers have a legal right to obtain a refund from a business if the goods purchased are faulty, not fit for purpose or don't match the seller's description. More information at Show I have a new to me Trident GMT with the ETA 2893-2 in it. The past 5 days of use since receipt I've been tracking its accuracy Day 1 Worn = +15.5 s/d when I noticed this right off the bat I demagnetized the watch just in case Day 2 Worn then crown up overnight = +31.2s +16.8spd Day 3 Worn then crown up overnight = +39.5s +17.1spd Day 4 Worn then crown down overnight= +50.3s +21 spd Day 5 Unworn stored face up 24 hours= +69.1s +18.8spd This is within what is suggested in the packaging for the watch. Timing tolerance: +20/-20 seconds per day, but they claim this is the Elabore version of the 2893-2 and isn't that timing variation -7spd/+7spd? Something doesn't add up here. I'm pretty disappointed in its accuracy considering that my other Trident (not 2893-2) is within about -2/+1.5 spd from day 1, and can be easily adjusted with how it is placed overnight. So I'm considering having it regulated and have contacted CW about doing that. I'd rather do that than having someone local do it and voiding the warranty, but now I am seeing that the warranty does not transfer to the new owner despite having all the paper work? Should I have them do it, have it done locally, or ask nicely that they transfer the warranty and do it under warranty if possible? Not a 'true GMT' - adjusting when travelling is not that easy because the hour hand is not independent. Fine for tracking another timezone when at 'home' or to use as a day/night indicator (how I use mine), but if you travel and want to adjust so GMT hand shows hand time, prepare for faff.
Not a 'true GMT' - adjusting when travelling is not that easy because the hour hand is not independent. Fine for tracking another timezone when at 'home' or to use as a day/night indicator (how I use mine), but if you travel and want to adjust so GMT hand shows hand time, prepare for faff. I mentioned this in another thread - there is now a powermatic 80 variation that is [AFAIK] a true GMT that is starting to pop up in various swatch brand watches - examples include: https://www.midowatches.com/uk/swiss...m0384293605100  https://www.certina.com/gb/watch/ds-...C0324291105100 https://www.tissotwatches.com/en-en/...291103800.html I guess there is either a Hamilton version or one on the way... Last edited by Alansmithee; 6th January 2020 at 09:38. -
Not a 'true GMT' - adjusting when travelling is not that easy because the hour hand is not independent. Fine for tracking another timezone when at 'home' or to use as a day/night indicator (how I use mine), but if you travel and want to adjust so GMT hand shows hand time, prepare for faff. Ah yes, thanks. - 6th January 2020, 09:39Checked Mido manual and I find this confusing: Travelling Adjusting the local time (crown in position II): When travelling, to modify the local time only (without modifying the reference time in 24-hour format), carry out the steps below in turn: � Unscrew the crown, and then pull it out to the first notch. � Set the local time by turning the crown in either direction. The hour hand will move in 1-hour steps. The date is linked to the local time, and will be adjusted automatically when the hour hand passes midnight. � Push in the crown and then screw it back in. Important: Never set the date between 10 pm and 2 am (the movement is in the process of changing the date). But it is good to hear that there will be more cheap(er) true GMT watches in the future. There is also Alpina GMT, but the operation is rather confusing, because of date is tied to 24h hand, not regular 12h hand. 6th January 2020, 09:43 -
Interesting. Movement looks small going by the date position? Also you lose the silicon components which made the base movement cool with the gmt module which is a bummer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk -
it gets more confusing :) In the first position, one can set the date, in the second position, you can set the quickest hour hand, forwards or backwards and with the date adjusting accordingly and in the third position, you set the time. according to Mido manual: position I - winding, position II - set local time + date, position III - set 24h hand, stop seconds etc. - 6th January 2020, 10:11it gets more confusing :) according to Mido manual: position I - winding, position II - set local time + date, position III - set 24h hand, stop seconds etc. Think that�s how all travellers GMTs work - certainly the case for my Tudor BB GMT. Definitely a bit confusing the first tine you set it! Last edited by momentum; 6th January 2020 at 10:13. - 6th January 2020, 10:25Think that�s how all travellers GMTs work - certainly the case for my Tudor BB GMT. Definitely a bit confusing the first tine you set it! I know how they work, read a quote from review above - it states, that position I is used to set date ;) -
I know how they work, read a quote from review above - it states, that position I is used to set date ;) Missed that - reviewer seems to have got confused! -
I have the Steinhart Ocean Titanium 500 GMT with this movement (or is it a a Stellita SW330, not entirely sure now) and it can be a bit of a faff setting it but only because I keep forgetting which way to turn the crown on the date/GMT setting. Turn it one way then date changes, turn the other way and the GMT hand moves. It's now my holiday watch and I found it OK during our last trip involving numerous time zone changes. If you are only doing a single time zone it really shouldn't be an issue. If you are constantly on the road however, I can see how a true GMT would make life easier. -Dreadnaught Voyager - I have one and truly a great watch. However I do find 2893s a huge pain in the ass. How so? Not a 'true GMT' - adjusting when travelling is not that easy because the hour hand is not independent. Fine for tracking an other timezone when at 'home' or to use as a day/night indicator (how I use mine), but if you travel and want to adjust so GMT hand shows hand time, prepare for faff. I can't agree that it's a problem to set. I just got mine out of the box to wear. A few winds to get it running, hack the watch to set time, took @ a minute. With the crown out at 1st click you can set the GMT hand independently if need be by turning the crown clockwise. If I was travelling and wanted to reset the main hour hand to local time, then the GMT hand to a different time zone it would only take a minute. Like winding a manual winder it's nothing like as involved or time consuming as some people seem to think. The GMT hand is indeed useful as an indicator of where in the day the watch has stopped to avoid the dreaded "danger zone" when setting. I�m the exact opposite. I will not touch a GMT with an �office� ETA movement...utter pain. So if I travel one hour ahead, rather than just move the hour hand forward one hour whilst the watch continues to tick away, I�ve got to move the GMT hand back one hour and then wind the whole watch forward and re-hack? Then the date isn�t synchronised with local time either. The whole idea of local time seems muddled on those watches and the purpose of the GMT reduced to a day/night indicator for local time if you want the date changeover to be correct. 6th January 2020, 15:39 I have 2 both are good watches and keep good time Sinn U2 ] I've worn my Sinn U2 pretty much constantly for 12 years. I class it as my "beater watch". It now tends to share wrist time with my Sinn U1000, but I still try and wear it for part of every day. One of the nice things with the 2893-2 movement is that if the watch stops and you can tell where you are in the 24 hour cycle and when the date will change for midnight which makes setting the correct time / date a breeze. As a watch / movement my Sinn U2 has been fantastic, its been to remote deserts, rainforests and extremes of environments etc. used weekly at the shooting ranges and for blasting clays. It started to lose time in July 2017 so I sent it in for service (after 10 years of 24/7 wear). Sinn replaced a few parts and it works great again. Dial is great too.... you only really see the 24 hr. GMT hand when you're looking for it.... rest of the time, for a quick glance / time check, the GMT hand all but disappears. I look at plenty of watches on websites and in shop windows..... and for legibility, I've yet to find anything better than the Sinn U-series watches. - 6th January 2020, 19:21M�hle Glash�tte Seebataillon GMT perhaps? I've always liked this one, and suggested it in a similar thread the other day. They do some cool stuff to the movement before casing up, according to the review HERE. 6th January 2020, 19:33 I have had a Fortis GMT for about 15/16 years and it�s worked perfectly on my travels The lume is Seiko quality as well.
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Thanks all, some great looking options out there. Sadly none of them so friendly on the wallet, I�ll have to keep an eye on SC. -GMT Watches with ETA 2893-2 movementM�hle Glash�tte Seebataillon GMT perhaps? I've always liked this one, and suggested it in a similar thread the other day. They do some cool stuff to the movement before casing up, according to the review HERE. You beat me to it - again! @DMC102... do you own one? You�re clearly a fan... Simon - 7th January 2020, 00:18Dreadnaught Voyager - I have one and truly a great watch. I suspect this is going to sound petty and rude, but I�m going to say it anyway.... how can you own a Dreadnought Voyager and spell it wrong Simon (PRS-2 Dreadnought owner) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 7th January 2020, 00:20 I suspect this is going to sound petty and rude, but I�m going to say it anyway.... how can you own a Dreadnought Voyager and spell it wrong Simon (PRS-2 Dreadnought owner) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Gawd! I�m blaming it was early morning when I wrote in haste! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk -
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